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The Neal Adams X-Men stories are my all time favourite comics.
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Tom McCafferty
2005-02-23 05:24:55 UTC
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Accept the Magneto stories.
Clell Harmon
2005-02-23 20:10:35 UTC
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Post by Tom McCafferty
Accept the Magneto stories.
How could anyone not welcome Magneto?
zildjean
2005-02-24 00:02:14 UTC
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Post by Tom McCafferty
Accept the Magneto stories.
Tom, you gotta work on your spelling. "Except" not "accept".

Why do you like them so much? I think that Roy Thomas's dialog is
incredibly stilted. Try saying it out load without either giggling or
stuttering; nobody ever talked like that (and I don't just mean the Beast).

And the artwork! Boy, if Neal Adams was trying to restore the book to the
greatness of Jack Kirby, he really missed the mark! It doesn't look like
Kirby at all. Plus those wild page layouts! You can hardly tell what panel
you're supposed to look at next.

Eyerbody knows that Jim Lee was the best artist ever on X-Men. Then
Silvestri.
Shawn H
2005-02-24 16:37:47 UTC
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In rec.arts.comics.marvel.xbooks zildjean <***@verizon.net> wrote:

: "Tom McCafferty" <***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
: news:***@hotmail.com...
: > Accept the Magneto stories.
: >

: Tom, you gotta work on your spelling. "Except" not "accept".

: Why do you like them so much? I think that Roy Thomas's dialog is
: incredibly stilted. Try saying it out load without either giggling or
: stuttering; nobody ever talked like that (and I don't just mean the Beast).

Okay, you're taking the piss, and dialogue is not one of Thomas's
strengths. But character design, overall plotting arcs, and historical
accuracy is. There's something just super-exciting about the connection
between the Living Monolith and Alex, or Trask's madness to round up all
the mutants, excluding himself.

: And the artwork! Boy, if Neal Adams was trying to restore the book to the
: greatness of Jack Kirby, he really missed the mark! It doesn't look like
: Kirby at all. Plus those wild page layouts! You can hardly tell what panel
: you're supposed to look at next.

That Neal Adams Visionaries TPB, with the new coloring, far surpasses
Kirby's days on the book. Adams has had plenty of imitators, but who has
equaled him?

: Eyerbody knows that Jim Lee was the best artist ever on X-Men. Then
: Silvestri.

These days, it's Quitely and Cassaday.

Shawn
Aaron Forever
2005-02-24 19:07:30 UTC
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Post by Shawn H
: > Accept the Magneto stories.
: >
: Tom, you gotta work on your spelling. "Except" not "accept".
: Why do you like them so much? I think that Roy Thomas's dialog is
: incredibly stilted. Try saying it out load without either giggling or
: stuttering; nobody ever talked like that (and I don't just mean the Beast).
Okay, you're taking the piss, and dialogue is not one of Thomas's
strengths. But character design, overall plotting arcs, and historical
accuracy is. There's something just super-exciting about the connection
between the Living Monolith and Alex, or Trask's madness to round up all
the mutants, excluding himself.
: And the artwork! Boy, if Neal Adams was trying to restore the book to the
: greatness of Jack Kirby, he really missed the mark! It doesn't look like
: Kirby at all. Plus those wild page layouts! You can hardly tell what panel
: you're supposed to look at next.
That Neal Adams Visionaries TPB, with the new coloring, far surpasses
Kirby's days on the book. Adams has had plenty of imitators, but who has
equaled him?
: Eyerbody knows that Jim Lee was the best artist ever on X-Men. Then
: Silvestri.
These days, it's Quitely and Cassaday.
I'll take Larroca over either of them.

In fact, I'm hoping that when Alan Davis packs up and moves on (and we all
know he will), they'll reunite Claremont and Larroca on Uncanny (or whatever
book Claremont ends up on the next time they play musical comics). They
really seemed to be hitting a good groove on X-treme (and the prior run of
Uncanny for that matter), when Sal was yanked off the book.
Shawn H
2005-02-24 21:14:13 UTC
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In rec.arts.comics.marvel.universe Aaron Forever <***@nowhere.com> wrote:

: I'll take Larroca over either of them.

Nah, Larroca's pseudo-painted washed out colors wear thin for me. I'm
waiting for him to leave X-men to start reading it again.

: In fact, I'm hoping that when Alan Davis packs up and moves on (and we all
: know he will), they'll reunite Claremont and Larroca on Uncanny (or whatever
: book Claremont ends up on the next time they play musical comics). They
: really seemed to be hitting a good groove on X-treme (and the prior run of
: Uncanny for that matter), when Sal was yanked off the book.

Meh. Davis is far superior, but I don't know if CC is up to it anymore.

Shawn
Aaron Forever
2005-02-24 23:26:21 UTC
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Post by Shawn H
: I'll take Larroca over either of them.
Nah, Larroca's pseudo-painted washed out colors wear thin for me. I'm
waiting for him to leave X-men to start reading it again.
Larroca isn't responsible for the coloring.
Post by Shawn H
: In fact, I'm hoping that when Alan Davis packs up and moves on (and we all
: know he will), they'll reunite Claremont and Larroca on Uncanny (or whatever
: book Claremont ends up on the next time they play musical comics). They
: really seemed to be hitting a good groove on X-treme (and the prior run of
: Uncanny for that matter), when Sal was yanked off the book.
Meh. Davis is far superior, but I don't know if CC is up to it anymore.
Honestly, I'm not that impressed with Davis' work this time around. Yes,
it's very pretty, and it looks as good as it always did. It just seems so
sterile, though. If he was taking the job just for the cash on his last run
as penciller and writer (if even only in name), then I can't imagine what's
different this time. The impression I get from looking at it is he's even
less interested this time around. I know I'm bordering on sacrilege, and
it pains me to criticize him as he's one of my all-time favorites. But I'm
just not getting that old magical feeling from him anymore.

btw, has Alan Davis *ever* done a run on a book that didn't involve
inter-dimensional travel/invasions? seems to be a recurring, whether it's
wanted, needed, or even interesting or not.
Shawn H
2005-02-25 05:34:49 UTC
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In rec.arts.comics.marvel.universe Aaron Forever <***@nowhere.com> wrote:

: "Shawn H" <shill#@fas.harvard.edu> wrote in message
: news:cvlg35$j5$***@us23.unix.fas.harvard.edu...
: > In rec.arts.comics.marvel.universe Aaron Forever <***@nowhere.com>
: wrote:
: >
: > : I'll take Larroca over either of them.
: >
: > Nah, Larroca's pseudo-painted washed out colors wear thin for me. I'm
: > waiting for him to leave X-men to start reading it again.
: >

: Larroca isn't responsible for the coloring.

Then why do all his books look the same?

: > Meh. Davis is far superior, but I don't know if CC is up to it anymore.

: Honestly, I'm not that impressed with Davis' work this time around. Yes,
: it's very pretty, and it looks as good as it always did. It just seems so
: sterile, though. If he was taking the job just for the cash on his last run
: as penciller and writer (if even only in name), then I can't imagine what's
: different this time. The impression I get from looking at it is he's even
: less interested this time around. I know I'm bordering on sacrilege, and
: it pains me to criticize him as he's one of my all-time favorites. But I'm
: just not getting that old magical feeling from him anymore.

I dunno, he's the only one who can make Psylocke make any sense at all.

: btw, has Alan Davis *ever* done a run on a book that didn't involve
: inter-dimensional travel/invasions? seems to be a recurring, whether it's
: wanted, needed, or even interesting or not.

Well, he does get stuck with Claremont a lot. If you mean the Nail and
Superboy, hey, his versions were pretty good.

Shawn
Jon J. Yeager
2005-02-24 18:58:49 UTC
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In rec.arts.comics.marvel.xbooks zildjean <***@verizon.net> wrote:
:
: "Tom McCafferty" <***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
: news:***@hotmail.com...
: > Accept the Magneto stories.
: >
:
: Tom, you gotta work on your spelling. "Except" not "accept".
:
: Why do you like them so much? I think that Roy Thomas's dialog is
: incredibly stilted. Try saying it out load without either giggling or
: stuttering; nobody ever talked like that (and I don't just mean the
Beast).

Come on, am I really the first person who couldn't resist correcting
zildjean's spelling after he'd just corrected Tom's?

"Loud" not "load".

Mouaha.

Jon
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zildjean
2005-02-25 01:10:19 UTC
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Post by Shawn H
: > Accept the Magneto stories.
: >
: Tom, you gotta work on your spelling. "Except" not "accept".
: Why do you like them so much? I think that Roy Thomas's dialog is
: incredibly stilted. Try saying it out load without either giggling or
: stuttering; nobody ever talked like that (and I don't just mean the Beast).
Come on, am I really the first person who couldn't resist correcting
zildjean's spelling after he'd just corrected Tom's?
"Loud" not "load".
Mouaha.
Jon
--
- "And you simply are incapable of discussing this
without being insulting, which speaks volumes
about your own intelligence." (Badthingus)
- "You're an idiot." (Michael Alan Chary)
- "You idiot." (Ron Saarna)
- "Oy, what a retard." (Jon J. Yeager)
C'mon guys. You've seen enough of my posts to know I was trolling, right?
Tom McCafferty
2005-03-10 03:24:02 UTC
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: > Except the Magneto stories.
: >
: Tom, you gotta work on your spelling. "Except" not "accept".
: Why do you like them so much? I think that Roy Thomas's dialog is
: incredibly stilted. Try saying it out load without either giggling or
: stuttering; nobody ever talked like that (and I don't just mean the Beast).
Okay, you're taking the piss, and dialogue is not one of Thomas's
strengths. But character design, overall plotting arcs, and historical
accuracy is. There's something just super-exciting about the connection
between the Living Monolith and Alex, or Trask's madness to round up all
the mutants, excluding himself.
: And the artwork! Boy, if Neal Adams was trying to restore the book to the
: greatness of Jack Kirby, he really missed the mark! It doesn't look like
: Kirby at all. Plus those wild page layouts! You can hardly tell what panel
: you're supposed to look at next.
That Neal Adams Visionaries TPB, with the new coloring, far surpasses
Kirby's days on the book. Adams has had plenty of imitators, but who has
equaled him?
Havok was Neal Adam's creation. He did excellent drawings of Green Arrow and
Green Lantern too.

Ian
2005-02-25 12:39:08 UTC
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Is that accept as in welcome? Or should it be Except?
Post by Tom McCafferty
Accept the Magneto stories.
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