The Rock In Talks For Silver Surfer?

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"Kumar/w Harold" <I Forgot My Cell Phone But We've Gone Too Far> wrote in

The Rock in talks for The Silver Surfer?
Posted on Thr, 17-Feb-2005
Ring champ, The Rock, looks set to star in a comic-book flick sometime in
the near future - it's just uncertain which one it will be. Though he is
reguarly mentioned in relation to a "Sub-Mariner" movie, talking to IGN
FilmForce, DJ said he's actually had talks about "The Silver Surfer" as
well. Interesting.
The latter has been in the works for about seven years now. Marvel's been
hungry to do it since day one - at one stage Wesley Snipes was mentioned

as

a possible lead, and later, Vin Diesel expressed interest. There has been
quite a few different scripts (one by Andrew Kevin Walker) written too.
Should the big guy nod his head in approval to "Surfer", he'll be playing
"Norrin Radd - former hearald of the mega-tyrant Galactus, [who] offers

his

life to protect his native planet, placing him in the service of Galactus

as

a silver suited sentinal. As a galaxy cruising protector endowned with
superhuman strength, he is able to control and direct cosmic energies,

with

enough force to destroy a city. After visiting Earth, the Surfer finally
betrayed Galactus and refused to supply his world-devouring appetite. His
punishement was confinement to earth - but he escaped and currently soars
the starways as a universal protector" [Source : Marvel Directory].

[David]

On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 09:58:23 -0800, "Kumar/w Harold" <I Forgot My Cell

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"Kumar/w Harold" <I Forgot My Cell Phone But We've Gone Too Far> wrote in

The Rock in talks for The Silver Surfer?
Posted on Thr, 17-Feb-2005
Ring champ, The Rock, looks set to star in a comic-book flick sometime in
the near future - it's just uncertain which one it will be. Though he is
reguarly mentioned in relation to a "Sub-Mariner" movie, talking to IGN
FilmForce, DJ said he's actually had talks about "The Silver Surfer" as
well. Interesting.

I can see him as the Sub-Mariner. At least he got the eyebrows for it.
The Silver Surfer... not so much.

[zildjean]

Post by David
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 09:58:23 -0800, "Kumar/w Harold" <I Forgot My Cell

Post by unknown
"Kumar/w Harold" <I Forgot My Cell Phone But We've Gone Too Far> wrote in

The Rock in talks for The Silver Surfer?
Posted on Thr, 17-Feb-2005
Ring champ, The Rock, looks set to star in a comic-book flick sometime in
the near future - it's just uncertain which one it will be. Though he is
reguarly mentioned in relation to a "Sub-Mariner" movie, talking to IGN
FilmForce, DJ said he's actually had talks about "The Silver Surfer" as
well. Interesting.

I can see him as the Sub-Mariner. At least he got the eyebrows for it.
The Silver Surfer... not so much.

Yes, he's got the eyebrows for Namor, and he's already comfortable wearing
just a Speedo to work.

The Silver Surfer movie just can't get made. It's too cerebral, unless you
strip away all of the Galactus world-devouring stuff, and Norrin Radd's
sacrifice, and the Surfer's betrayal of the Big G. Where's the fisticuffs?
Gotta have a slugfest in a comic-book movie.

The FF in the story are also problematic, but you could lose them without
too much trouble.

You just can't make a "July Fourth Weekend Opener" out of the story.

[T]

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Post by David
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 09:58:23 -0800, "Kumar/w Harold" <I Forgot My Cell

Post by unknown
"Kumar/w Harold" <I Forgot My Cell Phone But We've Gone Too Far> wrote in

The Rock in talks for The Silver Surfer?
Posted on Thr, 17-Feb-2005
Ring champ, The Rock, looks set to star in a comic-book flick sometime in
the near future - it's just uncertain which one it will be. Though he is
reguarly mentioned in relation to a "Sub-Mariner" movie, talking to IGN
FilmForce, DJ said he's actually had talks about "The Silver Surfer" as
well. Interesting.

I can see him as the Sub-Mariner. At least he got the eyebrows for it.
The Silver Surfer... not so much.

Yes, he's got the eyebrows for Namor, and he's already comfortable wearing
just a Speedo to work.
The Silver Surfer movie just can't get made. It's too cerebral, unless you
strip away all of the Galactus world-devouring stuff, and Norrin Radd's
sacrifice, and the Surfer's betrayal of the Big G. Where's the fisticuffs?
Gotta have a slugfest in a comic-book movie.
The FF in the story are also problematic, but you could lose them without
too much trouble.
You just can't make a "July Fourth Weekend Opener" out of the story.

- 'Ring champ'. Sounds like the Boxing Ring. Call i what it is.

- The Rock and Vin are too muscular, prototype wise, to play Silver
Surfer. They need an athletic (to be sure) actor but one who is more
wiry and lanky. Surfer isn't the Hulk, not even Spiderman, his power
isn't represented in his frame.

- SS makes for a great Fantastic Four sequel story. You can hang the
'strange bits' around the (by then) familiar FF framework.

Thor is good example of not casting to box office hotness, but casting
to the actual character. He's going to need to be Six Foot something,
and naturally blue eyed, and very muscular, although his hight and
acting skills will be paramount. They can bulk up an actor but it's
hard to grow one taller.
Peter Parker/Spidey was well cast.
Ororo/Storm, while I like watching H. Berry, was miscast, as were
Logan/Wolverine.

Micheal Keaton was, at the time, HOT! in Hollywood- this lead to him
landing Batman. Bad move. Decent in the suit, poor Bruce Wayne. HE is a
Community College stage play version of Bruce Wayne. Sorry Mike.

Look, dollars be damned (right.) leave the property in the vault unless
you can pull it off. What's the rush? Lots of these stories, characters
are from the SIXTIES. Could we get Good Stuff Onscreen, Please?

To paraphrase: Pain is transitory, Film lasts Forever.
Except, when you combine it into painful film?- then the pain never goes
away.


TBerk
why are we back in the Pro Wrestling NG?, Oh wait- THIS time it's On
Topic. Cool.

[zildjean]

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Post by David
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 09:58:23 -0800, "Kumar/w Harold" <I Forgot My Cell

Post by unknown
"Kumar/w Harold" <I Forgot My Cell Phone But We've Gone Too Far> wrote in

The FF in the story are also problematic, but you could lose them without
too much trouble.
You just can't make a "July Fourth Weekend Opener" out of the story.

- SS makes for a great Fantastic Four sequel story. You can hang the
'strange bits' around the (by then) familiar FF framework.

EXCELLENT call! You are absolutely right. The focus would be on the FF,
but the Big G would be an awesome adversary and the Silver Surfer would tip
the balance. Could you send this to post to Bryan Singer and ask him if
he's interested?

Post by T
Ororo/Storm, while I like watching H. Berry, was miscast, as were
Logan/Wolverine.

I agree on Halle, I think she was too dainty and flimsy for Storm, but I
thought Hugh Jackman was great as Logan. I bet you're either pissed about
"The Boy From Down Under" or "Van Helsing", aren't you? Admit it. I'd
like to kick 'em in the shins for those two myself.


Who could possibly play Thor? Rutger Hauer when he was 22, maybe. Other
than that, I can't even think of anybody close with the physical force and
dramatic presence to pull it off. (And I STILL think he should have been
Batman.)

Post by T
To paraphrase: Pain is transitory, Film lasts Forever.
Except, when you combine it into painful film?- then the pain never goes
away.

I still feel the pain of Roger Corman's FF, and I always will.

[T]

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Post by T

Post by zildjean

Post by David
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 09:58:23 -0800, "Kumar/w Harold" <I Forgot My Cell

Post by unknown
"Kumar/w Harold" <I Forgot My Cell Phone But We've Gone Too Far> wrote in

The FF in the story are also problematic, but you could lose them without
too much trouble.
You just can't make a "July Fourth Weekend Opener" out of the story.

- SS makes for a great Fantastic Four sequel story. You can hang the
'strange bits' around the (by then) familiar FF framework.

EXCELLENT call! You are absolutely right. The focus would be on the FF,
but the Big G would be an awesome adversary and the Silver Surfer would tip
the balance. Could you send this to post to Bryan Singer and ask him if
he's interested?

Post by T
Ororo/Storm, while I like watching H. Berry, was miscast, as were
Logan/Wolverine.

I agree on Halle, I think she was too dainty and flimsy for Storm, but I
thought Hugh Jackman was great as Logan. I bet you're either pissed about
"The Boy From Down Under" or "Van Helsing", aren't you? Admit it. I'd
like to kick 'em in the shins for those two myself.

Storm and Wolverine were miscast body type wise; they should have traded
heights. Ororo Monroe is tall, stately, statuesque. If she hadn't been a
generation removed 'whatsherface' the model who married David Bowie
would have been a great call. Iman, that it. She would make a great Mom
for Storm in an origin flashback.

Logan on the other hand is a short, stocky, girthy, thin waisted but
broad shouldered little dynamo.

Post by zildjean
Who could possibly play Thor?

An as yet unknown. Hardly anybody had heard of Christopher Reeves prior
to Superman.


TBerk

[t***@bellsouth.net]

Post by T
'Ring champ'. Sounds like the Boxing Ring. Call i what it is.
- The Rock and Vin are too muscular, prototype wise, to play Silver

Surfer. They need an athletic (to be sure) actor but one who is more
wiry and lanky. Surfer isn't the Hulk, not even Spiderman, his power
isn't represented in his frame.

Post by T
- SS makes for a great Fantastic Four sequel story. You can hang the

'strange bits' around the (by then) familiar FF framework.

Post by T
Thor is good example of not casting to box office hotness, but casting

to the actual character. He's going to need to be Six Foot something,
and naturally blue eyed, and very muscular, although his hight and
acting skills will be paramount. They can bulk up an actor but it's
hard to grow one taller.
Peter Parker/Spidey was well cast.
Ororo/Storm, while I like watching H. Berry, was miscast, as were
Logan/Wolverine.

Post by T
Micheal Keaton was, at the time, HOT! in Hollywood- this lead to him

landing Batman. Bad move. Decent in the suit, poor Bruce Wayne. HE is a
Community College stage play version of Bruce Wayne. Sorry Mike.

Post by T
Look, dollars be damned (right.) leave the property in the vault unless

you can pull it off. What's the rush? Lots of these stories, characters
are from the SIXTIES. Could we get Good Stuff Onscreen, Please?

Post by T
To paraphrase: Pain is transitory, Film lasts Forever.

Except, when you combine it into painful film?- then the pain never goes
away.


I had to chuckle a little reading this post, sorry. It just perfectly
encapsulates the clash between us the comics fans perception of comic book
characters and hollywood suits view of them. For the most part they view
them as nothing but fodder for their own mostly idiotic input and as
vehicles for their ideas. They take super hero A, cast hot actor/actress B,
rewrite their origin story change their costume and give them the name and
think they've made a super hero movie. Catwoman is a perfect example of this
run completely out of control into something that is total garbage but do
you think they'll blame themselves when enough of these monstrosities tank
at the box office? No way brother, they'll say "Superheroes just don't draw
the audiences anymore." and move on to westerns or some damn thing that
someone with an actual imagination and creative vision was successful with
and try to copy that formula. While adding their own input to it of course.

TS

[zildjean]

Post by T

Post by T
'Ring champ'. Sounds like the Boxing Ring. Call i what it is.
- The Rock and Vin are too muscular, prototype wise, to play Silver

Surfer. They need an athletic (to be sure) actor but one who is more
wiry and lanky. Surfer isn't the Hulk, not even Spiderman, his power
isn't represented in his frame.

Post by T
- SS makes for a great Fantastic Four sequel story. You can hang the

'strange bits' around the (by then) familiar FF framework.

Post by T
Thor is good example of not casting to box office hotness, but casting

to the actual character. He's going to need to be Six Foot something,
and naturally blue eyed, and very muscular, although his hight and
acting skills will be paramount. They can bulk up an actor but it's
hard to grow one taller.
Peter Parker/Spidey was well cast.
Ororo/Storm, while I like watching H. Berry, was miscast, as were
Logan/Wolverine.

Post by T
Micheal Keaton was, at the time, HOT! in Hollywood- this lead to him

landing Batman. Bad move. Decent in the suit, poor Bruce Wayne. HE is a
Community College stage play version of Bruce Wayne. Sorry Mike.

Post by T
Look, dollars be damned (right.) leave the property in the vault unless

you can pull it off. What's the rush? Lots of these stories, characters
are from the SIXTIES. Could we get Good Stuff Onscreen, Please?

Post by T
To paraphrase: Pain is transitory, Film lasts Forever.

Except, when you combine it into painful film?- then the pain never goes
away.
I had to chuckle a little reading this post, sorry. It just perfectly
encapsulates the clash between us the comics fans perception of comic book
characters and hollywood suits view of them. For the most part they view
them as nothing but fodder for their own mostly idiotic input and as
vehicles for their ideas. They take super hero A, cast hot actor/actress B,
rewrite their origin story change their costume and give them the name and
think they've made a super hero movie. Catwoman is a perfect example of this
run completely out of control into something that is total garbage but do
you think they'll blame themselves when enough of these monstrosities tank
at the box office? No way brother, they'll say "Superheroes just don't draw
the audiences anymore." and move on to westerns or some damn thing that
someone with an actual imagination and creative vision was successful with
and try to copy that formula. While adding their own input to it of course.
TS

Yes, but they've been doing the same thing with novels too, since the
beginning of cinema.

I think the problem is really that Hollywood has it stuck into their tiny
little bleach-blond heads that comic-book-movie equals
big-boffo-July-4th-blockbuster. I think Catwoman never had a chance once
Halle Berry was connected to it, and this idiocy is also what killed
Constantine.

Constantine could have been a magnificent little indy cinema chiller on a
shoestring budget. Instead, they threw in Keanu Reeves and lots of shiney
green, purple and red special effects, and made both Heaven and Hell boring.
It doesn't get any more tragic than that.

Ah well, just remember, the first try at the Punisher was so bad you'll piss
yourself laughing, the second try was just run-of-the-mill.

Maybe in another 20 years there'll be a studio doing for comics what
Merchant-Ivory does for stuffy victorian novels.